Πώς να χρησιμοποιήσει Winamp για να διαχειριστεί το iPod σας

από Ross McKillop [[on]] 7 Ιουλίου 2007

Παράθυρα iPod

Αυτό το συνοπτικό σεμινάριο θα σας παρουσιάσει πώς να χρησιμοποιήσει Winamp για να διαχειριστεί το iPod σας.

Σημείωση: αυτή η θέση είναι μέρος 10 εναλλακτικές λύσεις των iTunes για τη διαχείριση του iPod σας επισκόπηση.

  1. Κατ' αρχάς, σιγουρευτείτε για να επιτρέψετε τη χρήση δίσκων στο iPod σας με τη σύνδεση του και το άνοιγμα iTunes (εάν όχι αυτόματος-έναρξη). Επιλέξτε το iPod σας και χτυπήστε έπειτα Τοποθετήσεις πίν. Κύλινδρος κάτω Επιλογές το τμήμα και αφαιρεί τον έλεγχο από το κιβώτιο επονομαζόμενο Ανοικτά iTunes όταν συνδέεται αυτό το iPod. Κατόπιν τοποθετήστε έναν έλεγχο Επιτρέψτε το κιβώτιο χρήσης δίσκων (εάν δεν ελέγχεται ήδη). Χτυπήστε Ισχύστε.
  2. itunes τοποθετήσεις
    χτυπήστε για να διευρύνετε

  3. Η έξοδος από τα iTunes, και επιβεβαιώνει ότι το iPod σας έχει τοποθετηθεί τώρα ως κίνηση.
  4. ipod κίνηση

  5. Μεταφορτώστε και εγκαταστήστε Winamp εάν δεν έχετε ακόμα. Εάν επιλέγετε για να δημιουργήσετε μια εγκατάσταση συνήθειας, σιγουρευτείτε για να αφήσετε iPod υποστήριξη επιλογή μέσα Φορητή υποστήριξη παικτών μέσων (που είναι ένα μέρος Βιβλιοθήκη Winamp) ελεγχμένος.
  6. χρησιμοποίηση winamp και το ipod σας
    χτυπήστε για να διευρύνετε

  7. Έναρξη Winamp και εάν Βιβλιοθήκη μέσων το παράθυρο δεν εμφανίζεται, να επιλέξει Άποψη και έπειτα Βιβλιοθήκη μέσων.
  8. χρησιμοποίηση winamp και το ipod σας

  9. Στην αριστερή στήλη Βιβλιοθήκη μέσων το παράθυρο, επιλέγει το iPod σας από Portables κατάλογος. Οποιαδήποτε αρχεία αυτήν την περίοδο στο iPod σας θα επιδειχθούν.
  10. χρησιμοποίηση winamp και το ipod σας
    χτυπήστε για να διευρύνετε

  11. Για να προσθέσετε τη μουσική στο iPod σας, ανοίξτε Playlist το παράθυρο, προσθέτει μερικά τραγούδια σε τον και έπειτα τον σωστός-κρότο εκείνα τα τραγούδια. Από τις υπερεμφανιζόμενες επιλογές επίλεκτες Στείλετε σε: και επιλέξτε έπειτα το iPod σας.
  12. χρησιμοποίηση winamp και το ipod σας
    χτυπήστε για να διευρύνετε

  13. Θα δείτε έναν δείκτη θέσης ποσοστού καθώς τα αρχεία στέλνονται στο iPod σας.
  14. χρησιμοποίηση winamp και το ipod σας

  15. Τα αρχεία που απαριθμούνται στο iPod σας μπορούν να μην αναζωογονήσουν από μόνα τους. Ακριβώς χτυπήστε Portables
  16. χρησιμοποίηση winamp και το ipod σας
    χτυπήστε για να διευρύνετε

  17. … και χτυπήστε έπειτα το iPod σας πάλι. Όλα τα αρχεία που στείλατε ακριβώς στο iPod σας θα απαριθμηθούν τώρα.
  18. χρησιμοποίηση winamp και το ipod σας
    χτυπήστε για να διευρύνετε

  19. Μπορείτε να εκτινάξετε το δικαίωμα iPod σας από μέσα από Winamp με τον κρότο Εκτινάξτε κουμπί στην κατώτατη σωστή γωνία Βιβλιοθήκη μέσων παράθυρο.
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    { 62 comments… read them below or add one }

    1 Avi 07.08.07 at 9:17 am

    What about subscriptions to Podcasts, Video podcasts, and purchases from the iTunes music store. Can it handle all that too?

    2 hobnob 07.08.07 at 3:39 pm

    this tutorial is obviously aimed at anyone that just wants to load their mp3’s onto the iPod. straightforward no questions asked

    3 Ross McKillop 07.08.07 at 3:44 pm

    hobnob,

    Correct. There are so many features to Winamp that trying to cover them all would be far too time consuming. If you include the hundreds (thousands?) of plugins, it would take a lifetime.

    It’s also a part of a larger ‘overview’ on iTunes alternatives that I’m going to publish later tonight/early tomorrow.

    4 Eitan 07.09.07 at 1:24 am

    In the past I have used this feature, although be it you needed to install the plugin, on a number of occasions it corrupted my ipod. Hss this been noted or addressed in any way ?

    5 Ross McKillop 07.09.07 at 1:40 am

    Eitan,

    It depends on how far back in the past you used this feature.. I reviewed the release notes for the last few versions of Winamp and found the following:

    Winamp 5.34:
    Fixed: [pmp_ipod] Incompatibility with iTunes 7.1

    Winamp 5.31:
    * Fixed: [ml_pmp/pmp_ipod/pmp_usb] ‘no disc in drive’ error message

    Winamp 5.3
    * New: [pmp_ipod] gapless playback support on newer models
    * Improved: [enc_aacplus] saves itunes/ipod-compatible gapless information
    * Improved: [pmp_ipod] support for iTunesLock
    * Fixed: [pmp_ipod] Artist list on iPod not sorting “The” correctly

    Winamp 5.22
    * Improved: [pmp_ipod] Loading times for iPods reduced

    Winamp 5.21
    * Fixed: [ml_ipod] and [pmp_ipod] conflict

    So it sure looks like they’re constantly improving the iPod integration.

    With that said, generally iTunes does not like to ‘play nice’ with ANY other software when it comes to managing your iPod. If you sync it with anything other than iTunes, the next time your iPod is plugged in and iTunes is running, it’ll try and “fix” the problems. That can involve wiping out whatever is currently on your iPod. Once you make a decision to use something other than iTunes to manage your iPod, it’s a pretty good idea to stick with that thing. Or, make sure to keep everything backed up so doing a restore isn’t too much of a hassle.

    6 Eitan 07.09.07 at 2:18 am

    If i recall i used the ml_ipod plugin or something of that nature which i see they did address in version 5.21

    Will certainly give it a try again, my music is backed up for such occasions. iTunes is a joke when it comes to usability.

    Thanks

    7 Harvey 07.09.07 at 8:50 am

    Indeed, winamp integrated ml_ipod a few versions back to give all winamp users ipod & portable player support, and its pretty stable now.

    However ml_ipod has continued independent development since the integration and if you find like using winamp to manage your ipod, I strongly advise you to go download the newest version of ml_ipod (currently version 3) from http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/

    no i don;t work for them, but I liked this new version so much, I donated some of my hard earned cash.

    8 uneasy rhetoric 07.09.07 at 9:51 pm

    If you use your iPod for a lot of podcasts, download and use ml_ipod instead of Winamp’s built-in ipod support. The most recent version of the ml_ipod plugin is far superior to Winamp’s built-in support.

    9 ben666 07.17.07 at 5:02 am

    http://www.closetosoftware.com
    exellent art display for winamp

    10 Pedro Canuto 08.01.07 at 8:36 pm

    I fucking hate iTunes, it lags all the time, it crashes and its a pain in the ass to use it… takes a lot of time to do simple stuff.

    11 Julia 09.11.07 at 4:32 pm

    Thanks a bunch for this! I abhor iTunes as it would not cooperate whenever I tried to do simple things, and this just made my life a heck of a lot easier. Kudos.

    12 chris 09.27.07 at 2:03 pm

    How do i get this to work with iPod Classic 160gb?

    13 eratosthenes 10.16.07 at 3:05 pm

    wow. this makes me very, very happy. i find itunes to be invasive and irritating. i know it’s irrational, but hey.

    14 winston 10.18.07 at 10:21 pm

    no more itunes

    15 Jim 12.04.07 at 11:16 am

    I have the same question concerning the 160Gb. I used Anapod Explorer on my old iPods, but it did not work with the 160Gb model. Is there something “different” about the 160?

    16 Denis 04.02.08 at 9:15 am

    Thank you Ross for this tutorial. I can’t wait to get home and enable Disk Use in the hope that I can ultimately get rid of an extremely sluggish and time-consuming Itune.

    I own a 160GB Classic and have purchased Red Chair Anapod without careful reading and now to think that I can get this business done from the confort of my favorite interface (Winamp)is very conforting. Thanks again.

    17 chuck 04.06.08 at 5:29 am

    I have a very large music collection (>400 gigs). Which alternative is the fastest: winamp, itunes, floola, yamipod, mediamonkey or other using a 5th gen ipod?? Thanx

    18 Dustin 04.13.08 at 10:05 am

    Thank you for posting this! My iTunes crashed about a year ago and refused to start back up, so I’ve been stuck with the same songs for quite some time!

    Thank you

    19 Fred Banionis 04.16.08 at 5:20 pm

    Nice one, but I have a question.
    I need iTunes installed anyway?

    20 Ross McKillop 04.16.08 at 5:52 pm

    @Fred Banionis:

    Nope. Don’t need iTunes on your computer at all.

    Ross

    21 Eegzz 04.17.08 at 7:01 am

    Winamp does not recognize ipod, it used to before. I have the ipod plugin, the computer recognizes the ipod, should i reinstall winamp?

    22 Samuel 04.23.08 at 12:12 pm

    Hi, say when adding songs, can you save playlists and send em as playlists? Or is the only way of sending songs to ipods through winamp restricted to 1 way and then having to go into your ipod manually to create the playlists. (Because personally it’s easier to arrange playlists on the computer than on the ipod) I seperate all my songs into Trance Folder, HipHop folder, Korean folder and Slow folder. THANK YOU!

    23 Sunil 04.23.08 at 7:35 pm

    This totally rocks, thanks. Next step, kill iTunes.

    24 Ultimecia 04.25.08 at 12:07 pm

    Question:

    When the iTunes starts out, it check if you have all the mp3 you have on your iPod are on your PC, and if it can’t find it, it’s going to delete the one on your iPod.
    It may be a stupid question, but just for the sake of don’t having a bad time: Winamp do the same too or it don’t care if you don’t have the mp3 anymore?

    25 TBC 05.21.08 at 5:57 am

    Will this work with out iTunes installed?

    My problem is I can’t even get iTunes installed, so I’m not sure how I would do that first step “enable disk use” set. Will Winamp not work without doing that?

    Thanks!

    26 TBC 05.21.08 at 6:01 am

    My problem is the iTunes installation. If I can not set that “enable disk use” via iTunes, will I not be able to use the Winamp either?

    iTunes is HORRIBLE!

    27 kris 05.22.08 at 6:31 am

    it doesnt seem to work on my ipod nano, does anyone know why? ive followed the steps but once i eject it and check, it says zero music. it doesnt seem to recognize any of them, even though when i check it on my computer, the folders all seem to have the music as it should (under the F00 etc folders) anyone know how to get it to work?

    28 davenport nice 05.25.08 at 3:04 pm

    will winamp work with 160 classic? Been looking at poddox, is there a reliable program that can create playlists and transfer music to and from my PC?

    29 Alex 05.31.08 at 12:46 am

    Thank you for this simple tutorial. You have no idea how much i hate iTunes.

    30 davenport nice 05.31.08 at 2:22 am

    Been using winamp (with latest ml_ipod plug in) now for a few days with my 6G classic and new nano…both work fine…

    31 Jerms01 06.18.08 at 1:11 pm

    Do any of these prevent duplicate songs from being copied into the playlists? Say I have a Hip Hop playlist with many artist. When I add tracks to an existing artist some time 20 or 30 songs per artist its hard to tell what is already there and some are in multiple playlists. It would just be nice and easy to drag the artist and just have it add the songs that are missing.

    32 batman 06.19.08 at 6:42 am

    when i download songs onto my ipod from winamp, when i eject my ipod, that songs arent in order alphabetically is there any way that i can make them go in order

    33 roti 06.19.08 at 1:26 pm

    safassad

    34 desperate 07.16.08 at 7:13 pm

    so i did all this, the songs are in my ipod but they don’t play… whats up with this and how can i fix it???

    35 kimz 07.19.08 at 6:55 pm

    I have tried adding songs & videos to my ipod nano 3rd generation (4GB) using itunes to no avail. It always ends up being empty after ejecting. What should I do?

    36 rogelio 07.25.08 at 9:32 pm

    i didnt knew u had to have itns to made ipod har drvie thanks

    37 ec 07.29.08 at 9:15 am

    Eegzz,
    In the hopes you get notified when comments are made…..How did you solve your problem. My 80gig classic was working fine with Winamp 5.54, but I upgraded the ipod software, using itunes to version 1.2.1. since then winamp doesn’t recognize the ipod. the computer(win2000 srvc 4) sees the ipod in disk mode, as a drive letter.
    I’ve gotten rid of pmp_ipod.dll & replaced it with the newest version of ml_ipod.dll found here http://mlipod.sourceforge.net

    38 DevlshOne 08.07.08 at 1:00 pm

    An alternative to iTunes… hallelujah.

    39 Jemma 08.21.08 at 3:46 pm

    Thanks so much, I hate iTunes with a fiery passion so it is awesome to be able to manage my iPod in my beloved Winamp XD

    40 cip 08.24.08 at 1:18 am

    si eu am un IPhon si nu stiu cu pot sa bag clipuri video ,TV

    41 Robb 08.28.08 at 12:32 pm

    Unfortunately, Apple has disabled the “Enable disk use” feature in the 2.0.2. version. Yet another step in Apples’ attempt to limit in what way the consumer can manage their content. Faschism, anyone?

    42 Brent 08.28.08 at 2:30 pm

    So can I install itunes on some shit computer that I never want to use again, set my ipod to “enable disk use”, and then copy songs to my ipod with winamp on another, non-itunes-infected computer? And there’s no retarded “syncing” crap with winamp, right? I can just copy files from my computer’s HD to the ipod?

    And what’s this thing Robb said about it being a no go in 2.0.2? Is that the itunes version? Can I just use an earlier version of itunes?

    God, non-MSC supporting media players is one of the dumber things man’s come up with in the last decade.

    43 screaminghelpz 10.19.08 at 9:56 pm

    I recently downloaded winamp to manage my ipod nano’s music. How do i remove songs from my nano without using itunes. Can i do this with winamp or someother software. I can add the tracks but unsure of the removing part using winamp with the ipod nano. Help!!!

    44 Brent 11.04.08 at 10:06 am

    That’s a good question. I recently had an ipod for about a week before returning it, and I think itunes might be the only feasible tool to manage music on the ipod. I tried a few different alternatives, and they worked sort of okay for copying music to the ipod (*), but say I rename a file in my music collection, or fix an ID3 tag, or even just add a bunch of new mp3s to it. I’m not sure of an easy way to get those changes onto the ipod without clearing the ipod completely and then copying everything to it all over again. In a perfect world, where mp3 players look like removeable disk drives, you can simply use any incremental backup tool to scan your music collection, detect changes to the files since the last backup, and make those changes on the mp3 player. Other than that, I think the only other option is this “syncing” business.

    * When putting mp3s on the ipod, I noticed that if I copy them all to it, then try to copy my playlists, it actually copies the files referenced in the playlists to the ipod, so I have multiple copies of the same frickin file. How retarded is that? It can’t just either copy the playlist (which is a simple text file) by itself to the ipod, or read the playlist and create a corresponding playlist on the ipod in whatever lame format they use?

    45 Sathya 11.19.08 at 8:47 am

    Really had a tough time arranging songs using i-tunes. This is definitely simpler, arrange the songs on playlist and transfer the playlist to ipod, I-tunes really sucks. Thank you.

    46 Brent 11.19.08 at 10:28 am

    So if you have two playlist that contain some of the same songs, you get duplicate files on the ipod? What if you add some songs to your computer and want to put them on the ipod? Do you clear the entire ipod, add the new songs to whatever playlists you want them on, and then copy the playlists to the ipod again?

    This whole “use playlists to specify which files to copy” thing is weird.

    47 Joe 11.27.08 at 2:40 pm

    Thanks for the help, but . . .
    Son A got an iPod last Christmas, then we learned that iTunes wouldn’t work with our Windows 2K system. (Please don’t say “the solution is to upgrade.) I spent many hours eventually converging on WinAmp and thought it was working right, but then was informed that, even though WinAmp can load songs onto his iPod, they will not play if they had originally been downloaded onto our computer via iTunes. So when WinAmp transfers songs (that were originally downloaded via iTunes) from our PC to his iPod, they show up but don’t play. This looks like the same problem “Desperate” had on 7/16/08.

    Son B (older iPod) has lots of iTunes downloads on our PC but Son A appears to be locked out. Can Son A play these iTune downloads on his newer iPod?

    (Different question: I assume, too, that there are lots of alternatives to iTunes for downloading music. Anybody recommend any others to check out?)
    Thanks!

    48 Brent 11.28.08 at 2:25 pm

    amazon.com and emusic.com

    Basically any that use mp3s.

    49 Thiago 12.16.08 at 9:48 am

    First of all, thanks for the post! Very useful! :)

    I’ve noted by the winamp that each album has its art work attached. I can see it at the “Cover flow”, but it has desapeared at the main menu — that a “slide” show on the right side. Has someone noted the same problem?

    50 J. 12.24.08 at 9:34 am

    After spending DAYS on the WinAmp site, trying (unsuccessfully) to find out how to put a file on my ipod, the very first hit on SimpleHelp.net tells me exactly what I needed to know! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!!!

    J.

    51 Brent 12.24.08 at 9:49 am

    Thiago:

    Winamp displays cover art by looking for an image file in the directory with the mp3 file, named after the mp3’s ID3 tag album title. At least, that’s how my winamp is set up. I think it’ll also accept an image named “folder.jpg”, although that could be a problem if you have files in the same directory from different albums.

    I think the ipod requires the album art to be embedded in the ID3 tag, so winamp won’t correctly transfer the album art to the ipod. When I tried it, I didn’t get album art on the ipod unless it was embedded in the tag.

    52 zero 12.28.08 at 1:42 am

    i successfully use the winamp on my ipod shuffle 1gb.. very great program.. and so much faster than itunes.. hell itunes just sucks…
    just a question guys.. after i enabled the disk use on my ipod.. can i uninstall my itubes? or just leave it alone on my laptop.. thanks..
    hope for your kind replies..^^

    53 thiago 12.28.08 at 3:09 pm

    P.S.: Winamp works better with the ml_ipod plugin installed.

    54 Thiago 12.28.08 at 3:11 pm

    Brent:
    Thanks for reply. I’ve tested what you had wrote.

    55 robrecht 01.10.09 at 7:41 am

    I was happy that I found an alternative, Itunes sucks. All I want is to play music from my computer on my Ipod, why the hell is itunes crashing all the time?? This is not encouraging to by a mac

    56 John 01.13.09 at 8:18 pm

    Good site, thanks. I am a new IPod user, heard ITunes was a problem, so tried out winamp instead. Seems to work ok, I’ve loaded on my 20GB of mp3s, plus another 20GB of music ripped from CDs in winamp. Problem I’m having, though, is duplicate files. I stored my MP3s stored in folders and I guess there’s overlap. I had a 1000 or so duplicates, which I went through and deleted, and I also renamed another few hundred files without info. But when I pressed “Sync” next, I pressed ok without de-selecting all the files to/from IPod that I changed, and it downloaded them all again, and copied over my name changes. I now have 3 or 4 of many files on my ipod and lost all my work. Can you recommend my best option for managing my songs with winamp? Do I edit song info in my ipod or in winamp library? For example, would I be best off to edit in Ipod, get it perfect, and then delete my music library on computer (after backing up of course), and then upload it all back? Or vice versa? Any suggestions most appreciated…..wasted quite a bit of time on this through dumb trial and error. Thanks in advance for any help.

    57 Neil from Beachwood, Ohio 01.14.09 at 2:22 pm

    According to what I read on the Winamp web site, the free version won’t rip CD’s to MP3–only to WMA. And I don’t think an iPod can play WMA files.

    Media Monkey is a very similar program. In fact it can even use some of the “plugins” that were created for Winamp. It also comes in two flavors–free and “gold”. But the free version rips to MP3 and doesn’t seem to be missing any essential features for use with an iPod.

    58 John 01.14.09 at 2:35 pm

    Hi Neil
    Funny, I didn’t even think to look at format. It created .m4a files, not .mp3 as I had thought. But they play on Ipod just fine.

    I’m pretty happy with winamp so far, but this duplicate file thing is a question mark…I suspect I might have the same problem with ITunes, as I have been storing my files in a non-organized way, and it is clashing with how Ipods organize them…I think the way to go might be to clean up the library in the Ipod, with everything I have there, then re-download it fresh to my computer.

    However, will keep Media Monkey in mind as an alternative.

    John

    59 Neil 01.15.09 at 10:37 am

    @John: Try a small and simple free util called Sharepod. It installs directly onto your iPod. Sort the display by artist or title and del the duplicates. Then backup your music to your PC using any of the options offered for file naming. My personal choice is

    (Album)\(Track#)-(Title)

    Save to a dir that isn’t currently in your Winamp library. Clear out your Winamp lib, and then import the files that you just saved.

    60 Neil 01.15.09 at 10:38 am

    @John: Try a small and simple free util called Sharepod. It installs directly onto your iPod. Sort the display by artist or title and del the duplicates. Then backup your music to your PC using any of the options offered for file naming. My personal choice is

    (Album)\(Track#)-(Title)

    Save to a dir that isn’t currently in your Winamp library. Go into Winamp, clear out your Winamp library, and then import the files that you just saved.

    61 John 01.15.09 at 11:33 am

    Thanks Neil, I’ll give that a try.

    62 Thiago Colares 01.19.09 at 9:25 am

    Is there a way do use winamp in order to upload photos to ipod??
    If don’t, what app could I use?

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